Hi compound, having read your tale about Marie, I think it's a great shame you never wrote scripts for "Little House on the Prairie". Even Michael Landon was incapable of writing such " emotional onslaught" :-)
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The Sadness of the Poet
by compound complex ini feel a sadness so deep that friends wonder why my art and my blinds remain undrawn.. gone is the muse who promised me solacewhile guys played ball and climbed tall trees.. a blank canvas before me says, "here's your life, where has it gone?".
is it too late to become what imight have become .
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How to start....
by The Rebel ini think it would be a good idea to start a thread with suggestions on how to start a journey away from the w.t.
obviously circumstances are different for each individual.. my advice is:-.
a) fade gently but with the objective never to return.. b) my opinion on beliefs and theology is that if they are not verifiable and relevant to your everyday life then set them aside for now.. c) if you have spent your life sincerly believing your ministry was helping in the most important work beiing done on the earth, then i would would suggest simply by being ethical in speech and action, will effect others in a positive way evangelizing as a j.w never could.. d.) as for armeggedon, that's simply control by fear.
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I think it would be a good idea to start a thread with suggestions on how to start a journey away from the W.T. Obviously circumstances are different for each individual.
My advice is:-
a) Fade gently but with the objective never to return.
b) My opinion on beliefs and theology is that if they are not verifiable and relevant to your everyday life then set them aside for now.
c) If you have spent your life sincerly believing your ministry was helping in the most important work beiing done on the earth, then I would would suggest simply by being ethical in speech and action, will effect others in a positive way evangelizing as a J.W never could.
d.) as for Armeggedon, that's simply control by fear. This fear is why many generations of JWs, have missed their whole life. However if you try living in the moment, you might find that living in this life can actually be quite fun. So instead of being so fixated with the W.T future, why not try a little self-centred perspective?
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What Happens to Adam and Eve?
by Cold Steel inin jw theology, what happens to adam and eve?
are they resurrected and become heirs to paradise on earth?
or will they become two of the heavenly class?
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The Rebel
I believe the answer is that as Adam & Eve committed a sin whilst perfect they simply now cease to exist and have no resurrection.
The problem I have with W.T theology is how a person created perfect can do something imperfect? The witnesses will answer "free will" . But free will and perfection are clearly not the same thing.
As for the actual sin, in my viewpoint the story is that God gave them a choice. To clarify we're they :-
A) told simply not to eat from a tree.
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B) given the choice to eat from the tree, with the consequence of doing so explained.
As the answer is B, how then did they disobey God?
As for the consequences of that choice now, shaping the world we live in today, was this in your opinion even remotely explained to Adam?
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What is the purpose of life?
by slimboyfat inwhile reading the magazines the other day it occurred to me that jws never really had a very good answer to that question.
because it was aimed at young people and it said something along the lines, "if you believe in god you have a purpose, but if you don't believe in god your life has no purpose or meaning".
i think that is a faulty analysis of the situation.
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The Rebel
It's often interesting to note how our feelings can change about different things, and we can spend so much on this or that, thoughts on what we should or shouldn't have done. Or even thoughts on what we are going or not going to do. But sometimes the purpose of my life is just to let go of all the mental chatter and relax into the here and now. ( not such a simple task)
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Are quality restaurants even slightly aware of the concept..
by The Rebel inof providing high quality food?.
personally i prefer the small restaurants with a owner who cooks the food.
often the food is equally imaginative and just as tasty as the more expensive restaurant.
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The Rebel
Millie I think the hand written note is all I can afford after that meal, unless I take fresh flowers from the graveyard. I wouldn't, would I? Ummmmm, I am thinking about it....to be continued.
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Origin of Life
by cofty inin recent years significant progress has been made in solving the question of how life originated on our planet.. how do you think theists will respond when it finally happens?
as a former christian i know my reaction would have been something like "well that just goes to show that it takes intelligent life to make life", but for two reasons that defense doesn't work.. firstly it would prove that life is not an ethereal force that originates with god.
there is no 'ghost in the machine', no elan vital.
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The Rebel
I am no troll Viv, put your money on that and I will give you a free bet.
Because logic never stops.:-)
p.s if you play chess I am on many on line sites, if you want a game?
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Are quality restaurants even slightly aware of the concept..
by The Rebel inof providing high quality food?.
personally i prefer the small restaurants with a owner who cooks the food.
often the food is equally imaginative and just as tasty as the more expensive restaurant.
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The Rebel
And the sad thing was, because I told the waitress the food was crap, my wife got pissed off and wasn't talking to me this morning. O.K to be fair the desert was well baked let's leave it there...and I will try to make amends with my wife after work today.
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Origin of Life
by cofty inin recent years significant progress has been made in solving the question of how life originated on our planet.. how do you think theists will respond when it finally happens?
as a former christian i know my reaction would have been something like "well that just goes to show that it takes intelligent life to make life", but for two reasons that defense doesn't work.. firstly it would prove that life is not an ethereal force that originates with god.
there is no 'ghost in the machine', no elan vital.
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The Rebel
Cofty :- " Don't you think you should thoroughly investigate the evidence before you declare something impossible"
Thats an attractive proposition. Therefore may I please ask you " Cofty" how thoroughly you have investigated the evidence in your O.P? :-"life, is not an ethereal force that originates from God?
I am not trying to be a bee stinging on the tongue, instead I hope your answers will give credibility to your O.P and therefore give posters with opposing viewpoints a greater understanding of your calm rational thinking.
Because logic never stops.
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Origin of Life
by cofty inin recent years significant progress has been made in solving the question of how life originated on our planet.. how do you think theists will respond when it finally happens?
as a former christian i know my reaction would have been something like "well that just goes to show that it takes intelligent life to make life", but for two reasons that defense doesn't work.. firstly it would prove that life is not an ethereal force that originates with god.
there is no 'ghost in the machine', no elan vital.
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The Rebel
Viv I could communicate with you all day, if you were the last egg in the box, but to suit my posting needs and with limited time, please understand I have a full box of eggs which I can make an omelette with. Therefore I won't be hard boiling any eggs today. Nothing wrong with a hard boiled egg, but that's just the way it is.
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Origin of Life
by cofty inin recent years significant progress has been made in solving the question of how life originated on our planet.. how do you think theists will respond when it finally happens?
as a former christian i know my reaction would have been something like "well that just goes to show that it takes intelligent life to make life", but for two reasons that defense doesn't work.. firstly it would prove that life is not an ethereal force that originates with god.
there is no 'ghost in the machine', no elan vital.
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The Rebel
Cofty, " don't you think you should thoroughly investigate the evidence before you declare something impossible?
Well to be fair Cofty, you sound like a bully who beats kids up at school. How can I or even you thoroughly investigate all the evidence on the subject "origin of life?" Are you even slightly aware of the term " thoroughly" Apparently so, therefore please clarify how you have thoroughly investigated this subject to declare opposing views impossible?